SGA vs. S.H.I.E.L.D, Duet, Trinity
Sep. 23rd, 2014 08:59 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
sgatazmyS.H.I.E.L.D is tonight! I'm so excited. This time I'll be more guarded with my heart. Joss Whedon won't hurt me again. *sniffle*
My housemate and I were debating events in the second half of the season and we realized:
We both really like watching shows where characters are broken but find their way to each other and create a home. Ward's betrayal cut at us as deeply as it did because he'd built that dynamic with his team. He'd played the whole I'm broken and need a group of broken people to accept me card. He'd worked to build the entire dynamic and we bought it hook line and sinker.
My housemate and I are watching both SGA and SG-1 at the same time. We both like SGA more and I think we finally pinpointed why. SG-1 is a close team and the love is strong but each of the members can (at least after season three) be okay on their own if they had to. Jack is broken at the beginning but not so much for the rest of the series. Even Daniel isn't fully broken after having lost his wife. They all needed the team as a home but they could all (and do eventually) survive without that team life.
On SGA, the team bond is so close and the members so messed up that it's hard to see them handling well a life outside of their team (except maybe Teyla). I think we saw some of this in The Return but I don't remember the episode so I'll have to see once I get there. We do know Atlantis gave each of them a home and a better reason for life. (Again, Teyla is an exception to this but she adds so much to the team love that it doesn't affect my joy of the show. If anything, her stability is necessary to keep the team together.)
I finally watched Duet. I'm starting to think every other episode of SGA is 'let's bring Rodney as close to death as possible and really mess with him as much as we can'. Looking at the episodes ahead, I think season two has at least two or three more of these episodes alone and I don't think season three or five are any easier on him. I don't remember season four but I imagine it isn't much kinder to him. (If I recall, the series isn't much kinder to John.)
I did like how they slowly worked in Ronon becoming a part of the team instead of just starting with him there.
After Duet, I watched Trinity skipping over Condemned until next time. Why? I couldn't wait to see Trinity again.
I did enjoy Ronon a lot in this one. There is this part of him that isn't necessarily dark by Pegasus standards but is dark by our own standards. He doesn't hesitate to kill when he feels it is justified. If anything, he sees his actions as honorable. I love how Teyla understands and even says she might do the same thing in his situation except for the part where he used her. She radiates anger in this one and I love how she isn't intimidated by Ronon's size. She even holds a knife to his throat for a moment! Oh team!
I see this episode a little different than I think I did in the past. I love Rodney feeling so bad about Collins' death and Sheppard's recognition at his pain. In that last scene--where last time I saw such hurt-- I saw hope. When Sheppard says that Rodney could earn his trust back if he tries really hard, I just about melt. It's a wonderful out and John is offering this even as he is so angry at Rodney. Rodney did appeal to trust at the highest form and he'd played every card he'd had to get John to trust him. By trusting Rodney and convincing Elizabeth to do so, John lost some of his own clout. It's a big blow, really, and for John to be willing to give Rodney that bit of hope in the end speaks to how good of friends they really are. It's beautiful.
I have been trying to find tags that take more of this angle but I haven't found too many that are written well. I don't like my tags to the episode either. If only I didn't already have three stories in the works.
Next on my SGA re-watch list: Condemned and Instinct
My housemate and I were debating events in the second half of the season and we realized:
We both really like watching shows where characters are broken but find their way to each other and create a home. Ward's betrayal cut at us as deeply as it did because he'd built that dynamic with his team. He'd played the whole I'm broken and need a group of broken people to accept me card. He'd worked to build the entire dynamic and we bought it hook line and sinker.
My housemate and I are watching both SGA and SG-1 at the same time. We both like SGA more and I think we finally pinpointed why. SG-1 is a close team and the love is strong but each of the members can (at least after season three) be okay on their own if they had to. Jack is broken at the beginning but not so much for the rest of the series. Even Daniel isn't fully broken after having lost his wife. They all needed the team as a home but they could all (and do eventually) survive without that team life.
On SGA, the team bond is so close and the members so messed up that it's hard to see them handling well a life outside of their team (except maybe Teyla). I think we saw some of this in The Return but I don't remember the episode so I'll have to see once I get there. We do know Atlantis gave each of them a home and a better reason for life. (Again, Teyla is an exception to this but she adds so much to the team love that it doesn't affect my joy of the show. If anything, her stability is necessary to keep the team together.)
I finally watched Duet. I'm starting to think every other episode of SGA is 'let's bring Rodney as close to death as possible and really mess with him as much as we can'. Looking at the episodes ahead, I think season two has at least two or three more of these episodes alone and I don't think season three or five are any easier on him. I don't remember season four but I imagine it isn't much kinder to him. (If I recall, the series isn't much kinder to John.)
I did like how they slowly worked in Ronon becoming a part of the team instead of just starting with him there.
After Duet, I watched Trinity skipping over Condemned until next time. Why? I couldn't wait to see Trinity again.
I did enjoy Ronon a lot in this one. There is this part of him that isn't necessarily dark by Pegasus standards but is dark by our own standards. He doesn't hesitate to kill when he feels it is justified. If anything, he sees his actions as honorable. I love how Teyla understands and even says she might do the same thing in his situation except for the part where he used her. She radiates anger in this one and I love how she isn't intimidated by Ronon's size. She even holds a knife to his throat for a moment! Oh team!
I see this episode a little different than I think I did in the past. I love Rodney feeling so bad about Collins' death and Sheppard's recognition at his pain. In that last scene--where last time I saw such hurt-- I saw hope. When Sheppard says that Rodney could earn his trust back if he tries really hard, I just about melt. It's a wonderful out and John is offering this even as he is so angry at Rodney. Rodney did appeal to trust at the highest form and he'd played every card he'd had to get John to trust him. By trusting Rodney and convincing Elizabeth to do so, John lost some of his own clout. It's a big blow, really, and for John to be willing to give Rodney that bit of hope in the end speaks to how good of friends they really are. It's beautiful.
I have been trying to find tags that take more of this angle but I haven't found too many that are written well. I don't like my tags to the episode either. If only I didn't already have three stories in the works.
Next on my SGA re-watch list: Condemned and Instinct
